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Revell 1/24 1978 Trans Am
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Posted: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 - 11:13 PM UTC
Ok, well, no reason everyone else should have all the fun with these car builds, hey?

This is a build I've had on the go for several years now, with on/off spurts of activity in between stretches of working on floaty type things

First up here's what I'm aiming for


Revell would have you build it in black as per the "smokey and the bandit" scheme



And this is how the kit has languished for the last few years





And lately I've dusted it off and started work again with the goal to finish it before I return to the KGV to finish her.
Can I tell you, the fit of the parts within the kit is as awful as the fit on the 1:1 originals?

anyways, here are the headlight lens backs sprayed chrome,

and after vigorous sanding of the main body components I've applied a thin coat of silver. Now, I use silver as opposed to conventional primer as I find it shows up imperfections so much better than primer.



I stripped the chrome from these parts using the old oven cleaner method ready to customize and actually make the tailights look a lot more like the real thing


So that's where it's at up to this point. Next up, more sanding before painting the interior of the body shell and other components black in preparation to apply the blue to the outside!
Thanks for looking-hopefully this won't be a long build!
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Posted: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 - 11:26 PM UTC
Well look what the cat dragged in !!!

Wonderful to have you join us here on the shiny side with a cool build Russ! You've made a good start (however long ago) and it looks very clean so far.


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Thanks for looking-hopefully this won't be a long build!



Why don't you enlist and drop it in the Garage Queens Group Build as well? You might as well get a little ribbon for such a nice build!

Looking forward to more progress reports mate.

Cheers, D
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Posted: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - 03:17 AM UTC
Russell,
I'll 2nd Damian's suggestion about enlisting in the ongoing Garage Queen GB.

You're making some really nice progress now. If you're still thinking about what color to paint it, I vote for the Blue as on the real life car. Sure hope that's yours.

Interesting choice of Silver as a basic primer for body issues. Do you completely remove all of it before the painting process starts?

Joel
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Posted: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - 03:20 AM UTC
Watching with interest!
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Posted: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - 09:47 AM UTC

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Well look what the cat dragged in !!!

Wonderful to have you join us here on the shiny side with a cool build Russ! You've made a good start (however long ago) and it looks very clean so far.


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Thanks for looking-hopefully this won't be a long build!



Why don't you enlist and drop it in the Garage Queens Group Build as well? You might as well get a little ribbon for such a nice build!

Looking forward to more progress reports mate.

Cheers, D



Hi D!

It's taken me a while, but here I am on the shiny side

Let's just hope I can do the Trans Am justice. If I can come anywhere close to the standard you guys build to I'll be happy...

As for the group build, I'm gonna give it serious contemplation. Normally group builds and I don't mix too well, but I think I might just be able to do this one


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Russell,
I'll 2nd Damian's suggestion about enlisting in the ongoing Garage Queen GB.

You're making some really nice progress now. If you're still thinking about what color to paint it, I vote for the Blue as on the real life car. Sure hope that's yours.

Interesting choice of Silver as a basic primer for body issues. Do you completely remove all of it before the painting process starts?

Joel



Hi Joel! Great to have you onboard!

The silver is a technique I use on ships and planes when filling seams. Normally I'd brush it on to detect any imperfections before sanding and then priming (if required by the presence of any brass photo etch) ready for top coating.

I thought I'd give it a try here also, but I sprayed it on this time. Being a "shiny" surface shows any imperfections really well. I'll probably give everything a good rub down with 600 grit wet/dry, but, because I work with enamels, I'll not worry about taking it all the way back as the coverage is pretty good.

Definitely going with the blue. Even have the paint ready on hand

Here's another car with a similar paint scheme-yes, I really wish it were mine as this one is a resto-mod with a modern 6.0L V8 and 6 spd Tremec, but alas, I cannot claim it to be so


and one of those lovely haunches


I'll be looking to try to replicate the tail lights as closely as possible too...


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Watching with interest!



Welcome aboard Charlie Sure hope I can do a good job on her!
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Posted: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - 12:17 PM UTC
Russ,
Glad you finally made it. The paint job on the Trans Am looks pretty cool so I will interested to see how you do that, especially with the big bird. Nice idea on the silver primer. You're right in that it shows perfections, though I only usually find those out when using it as the final coat.

cheers
Michael
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Posted: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - 12:23 PM UTC

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Russ,
Glad you finally made it. The paint job on the Trans Am looks pretty cool so I will interested to see how you do that, especially with the big bird. Nice idea on the silver primer. You're right in that it shows perfections, though I only usually find those out when using it as the final coat.

cheers
Michael



Hi Michael

good to have you along for the ride

Well, for the big bird, I'm gonna cheat and use the supplied decal...

I'm hoping to replicate the wonderful panel fit of the 1:1 as well! Just look at how those headlights fit neatly into the bumper
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Posted: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - 11:29 PM UTC
Great choice of subject Russell. Nice sharp work so far. The metallic blue is my favorit color for the TA. The rest-mod looks awesome. I do believe Fujimi or Aoshima makes wheels almost identical to the ones on the resto-m, if you want to pursue the resto-mod look.
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Posted: Thursday, August 22, 2019 - 01:20 AM UTC
Russell,
I follow a few auto builders on You Tube, two of which only speak Japanese, I don't know a single word of it. But somehow I manage to follow their builds without much difficulty. Both of them prime every shell/body is black primer, then sand the primer down that will show glue issues, sink marks, and missed mold seems. Then they continue to sand till the primer is completely gone, or if putty work is needed they go that route. Then prime those areas again, and repeat. Way to much work for me, so I use the old look and feel approach.

Joel
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Posted: Sunday, August 25, 2019 - 06:29 PM UTC

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Great choice of subject Russell. Nice sharp work so far. The metallic blue is my favorit color for the TA. The rest-mod looks awesome. I do believe Fujimi or Aoshima makes wheels almost identical to the ones on the resto-m, if you want to pursue the resto-mod look.



Thanks Jesper yep, the blue is my favorite too gonna stick with the stock gold insert wheels though as I like the look of them


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Russell,
I follow a few auto builders on You Tube, two of which only speak Japanese, I don't know a single word of it. But somehow I manage to follow their builds without much difficulty. Both of them prime every shell/body is black primer, then sand the primer down that will show glue issues, sink marks, and missed mold seems. Then they continue to sand till the primer is completely gone, or if putty work is needed they go that route. Then prime those areas again, and repeat. Way to much work for me, so I use the old look and feel approach.

Joel



That sounds like way too much work for me too Joel
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Posted: Monday, August 26, 2019 - 12:52 AM UTC
Russell,
Way to much work for me as well. What I will do is hand paint with primer the seams for issues. I'll worry about body issues when I prime, and fix what I think needs fixing. The rest I let slide.

Joel
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Posted: Monday, August 26, 2019 - 10:10 AM UTC

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Russell,
Way to much work for me as well. What I will do is hand paint with primer the seams for issues. I'll worry about body issues when I prime, and fix what I think needs fixing. The rest I let slide.

Joel



Couldn't agree more Joel

normally I'd just fill any seems, sand, then apply silver paint with a brush to detect any imperfections, fill, sand, paint and repeat until the seem has gone as you can see here

on one of my floaty builds...

But this Revell plastic is just, well, weird! It's like it's got a hard skin on it that scratches really easily, but is resistant to fine sanding without effort. Then once you break through it's super tough inside... hence my reason for spraying the whole lot silver...

I've never come across anything like it in all my years building kits... granted I've never done a Revell car kit before only AMT and Ertl, but still...
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Posted: Monday, August 26, 2019 - 06:35 PM UTC
Hi, Russ. Nice build so far!

I use the same silver method on aircraft builds, and yes, it pays off.


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But this Revell plastic is just, well, weird! It's like it's got a hard skin on it that scratches really easily, but is resistant to fine sanding without effort. Then once you break through it's super tough inside... hence my reason for spraying the whole lot silver...

I've never come across anything like it in all my years building kits... granted I've never done a Revell car kit before only AMT and Ertl, but still...



Hmmm... I've met this kind of plastic on MPC kits, and I wonder if your Revell is original Revell at all... However, as you said, you need to use a rougher sandpaper (I used 600 grit hardware store one), then soak the surface in extra-thin, and only after fine sanded with 1000 grit and up. It worked for me.

Following the build,
Gabriel
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Posted: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 - 05:10 AM UTC
Russell,
The older plastics varied all over the place. it was a real crap shoot what you'd end up having to work with. But it's the end results that counts.

Joel
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Posted: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 - 09:45 AM UTC

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Hi, Russ. Nice build so far!

I use the same silver method on aircraft builds, and yes, it pays off.


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But this Revell plastic is just, well, weird! It's like it's got a hard skin on it that scratches really easily, but is resistant to fine sanding without effort. Then once you break through it's super tough inside... hence my reason for spraying the whole lot silver...

I've never come across anything like it in all my years building kits... granted I've never done a Revell car kit before only AMT and Ertl, but still...



Hmmm... I've met this kind of plastic on MPC kits, and I wonder if your Revell is original Revell at all... However, as you said, you need to use a rougher sandpaper (I used 600 grit hardware store one), then soak the surface in extra-thin, and only after fine sanded with 1000 grit and up. It worked for me.

Following the build,
Gabriel



Welcome aboard Gabriel! great to have you along for the ride

Definitely a Revell molding/packaging from 2011, even has Revell stamped on the inside of the body shell. Although according to Scalemates the tooling was from Monogram back in the 70's.

As for sandpaper, I had to start with 240 grit on the worst areas (mold seams) then 400 grit all over, followed by 600 to finish...


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Russell,
The older plastics varied all over the place. it was a real crap shoot what you'd end up having to work with. But it's the end results that counts.

Joel



Indeed it is Joel, and proves the point: it's model making
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Posted: Wednesday, August 28, 2019 - 12:49 AM UTC
Russell,
Ain't that the truth.
Joel
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Posted: Wednesday, August 28, 2019 - 09:31 AM UTC
Just a small update.

Scuffed the tires a bit and picked out the fuel tank. Cheated a bit on this and just masked the edges and hand painted with a flat brush, as opposed to airbrush-much quicker!

I'll apply a wash to tone down the edges a bit methinks...



Thanks for looking
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Posted: Wednesday, August 28, 2019 - 09:45 AM UTC
Even a little step is a step in the right direction!

Great work so far!
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Posted: Wednesday, August 28, 2019 - 09:59 AM UTC
Russell,
I'd say you're making excellent progress on that chassis.
Joel
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Posted: Wednesday, August 28, 2019 - 10:13 AM UTC
Looking good Russ, like you said, a wash will pop the detail and run along the edges of the support straps nicely.

Cheers, D
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Posted: Wednesday, August 28, 2019 - 05:14 PM UTC
Coming along fine there Russell.
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Posted: Thursday, August 29, 2019 - 09:22 AM UTC
Thanks everyone!

Wash applied to tank last night.

Getting all the parts ready for spraying the interior of the body work... Watch this space
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Posted: Friday, August 30, 2019 - 12:43 AM UTC
Russell,
So how did the tank turn out?

Joel
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Posted: Sunday, September 01, 2019 - 10:58 AM UTC

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Russell,
So how did the tank turn out?

Joel



Tank Looks good now Joel-the wash softened the edges just right.

Had to be careful though as matt paint tends to want to be covered in wash, as opposed to gloss which tends to push it into the corners...

Pic soon with some more progress shots as well
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Posted: Monday, September 02, 2019 - 12:19 AM UTC
Back from the paint shop

the shell interior completed


headlights and rear view mirror

the instructions call for the bottom of the windscreen to be painted as well

and with masking off. I'm not sure whether I'm happy with the headlights or if I will get some bare metal foil and foil the chrome areas. The rear view mirror required reshaping from the "blob"that was supplied and now looks okay

and the tank after the wash.

The pic doesn't really show it well, but the edges of the straps are much "softer"than before.

Thanks for looking